Yesterday I wrote an email to Deba,
David (Chair) and Amy (Administrative Assistant):
I had a very good class today.
Because our classes were new to each other,
voicing became problematic. I scolded them
and explained that it was disrespectful to me as instructor.
I pointed out that ASL doesn't have
a spoken or written counterpart which makes
voicing a no-no. I collected their reaction cards
and I will copy them in my next blog.
For 28 years of college teaching, I've developed
a "built-in" lecture about no voicing in class.
Otherwise, the students worked very hard in the class,
learning how to use a grid to put different information
in it. It was great to watch them learn and grow,
and I wanted to thank Amy and David for
their support to make it possible today.
Deba, you should be proud of your students...
they were exceptional!
Carl
Professor Carl's note:
In ASL classes, I don't usually tolerate using voice while doing ASL. Along with Gebarentaal (Dutch Sign Language into which I was born), British Sign Language (BSL), Langue des Signes Francias (LSF), and all other sign languages around the world, ASL is not a sound-oriented language. They belong to the so-called 'visual-gestural' group of languages.
ASL is 'spoken' in a different way—another way of thinking. I think I see what makes me think and say. I'm totally aware of the fact that using voice while doing ASL is both vociferous and ungrammatical; it is language assault and language bastardization. I think that ASL students have never done with intentional disrespect of ASL.
To understand what doing ASL is to understand what doing ASL is not. A person signing just as it is written or spoken in English runs the risk of "speaking like a book." By signing in the English word order that supports using voice, we the Deaf are in a constant danger of being explained in another language—language mockery of our personhood, that is, our being deaf. What does using voice in ASL classes mean? Why does it happen? As instructor of ASL, I am concerned almost exclusively with precise description of doing ASL. I do understand that ASL students are raised to listen for meanings and purposes. If they listen to what they hear, for example, they become 'sound,' 'sensible,' and 'competent.' However, when they start doing ASL, they begin another way of thinking, which could be an ego-bruising task. Above all, ASL is soundless; it is a sight-oriented language, a different mental perception. Doing ASL is unlike Dr. Seuss's book, I Can Read with My Eyes Shut, which is a hard thing to do!
When I discovered that voicing happened in one of my ASL classes, I immediately asked for student reaction cards so that they could write to themselves that using voice while doing ASL is disrespectful. The following is what my students reacted to using voices while doing ASL.
Student #1
It's pretty easy for me because I'm not very talkative, but there are still sometimes when I feel the need/urge to talk.
Student #2
I find that I need the quiet to concentrate--most classes I don't mind background noise but in this class it BOTHERS me a lot and it is RUDE also!
Student #3
You are right we shouldn't talk and I am sorry. So times it is hard to turn voice off. I'll try better.
Student #4
I apologize. I know better! This is class. But for ME it is habit because my friends would say, "what is your mom saying?" I didn't want to be rude so when I do ASL, I talk too. When my friends are talking I would explain to my mom so she could join in--I respect ASL and VOICE. (SAME)
Student #5
The very first day of the class, the idea of no voice was very intimidating. However, I have found it very refreshening and truly feel I am learning WAY more by being silent. I lovr the NO VOICE concept! And that means A LOT coming from a person who LOVES TO TALK! :)
Student #6
I will practice signing more that talking in class. Thank you for letting the class know again.
Student #7
I understand what you're saying. You are not asking too much. It is nice to learn for a couple hours with no voice.
Student #8
It saddens me when people use voices in class. I personally try my hardest t not talk. If I had a question about something I would write it down. We pay money to learn this second language. NO VOICE all the way!
Student #9
I will practice not speaking as I sign. I understand the need to not speak. Even if I'm trying to help someone understand, I will write it out instead or wait till break.
Student #10
Not having voicing in class is extremely important! It is distracting and detrimental to the learning process of those around you. Not voicing will help you learn ASL...plus it's just respectful to you as instructor and students as a whole.
Student #11
I like the no coicing thing. I won't point fingers but I had a girl talking to me one day in class. I can't pay attention to you when someone is talking.
Student #12
I confess I did you my voice a few times :( I will try my best to sign even if it's not the right way. Can you READ lips at all??
Student #13
Fine with me. I take my HA's (hearing aids) all first thing in clas so I can't hear the voicing either. On BREAK when people coice, what should I do?
Student #14
I like not using voices, but sometimes I have to ask a question and not everyone can read my handwriting. But I do respect the no voices.
Student #15
It's not easy but it makes perfect sense and I'll do my best. If it happens a little (voicing) it leads to more and nobody benefits...so none is best.
Student #16
Very true we should not use our voice in this class, very disrespectful. I did find myself talking during break, which we are not to do in Deba's class. We must go out into the hall. Very sorry for not showing the same respect today.
Student #17
I think you're right about how sign language should be learned. It's very hard notto say the word while signing and practically impossible not to think the meaning of the sign while signing it though. But it is disrespectful towards you, especially since you baby us so much. Thank you!
Student #18
I like and respect the no voicing! I prefer it. Noise distracts me and my learning. I can't think straight when people are loud. It is one thing if you are helping someone with a tin voice (although I'm sure that's wrong too) but just having aloud random conversation is just wrong and rude. I have an ear infection and everything is extra hard right now. I don't like it. Thank you for the quiet! :)
Student #19
On one hand I think it's better not to voice, especially if some are not able to hear what you voice. But I also find it very difficult to communicate often. However the less you speak, the more you sign, the faster you should learn. :)
Student #20
Thank you! Some people in our class have been very disrespectful and disruptive by using their voices while in class. And it upsets me because I'm really trying to learn. I can't say I've been perfect about nor using my voice but I try my hardest to strictly limit its use.
Student #21
I'm very sorry for voicing when I have. It is very disrespectful and it is never my intention to disrespect you or Deba. I really like her and you seem pretty great, too. I will do my best from now on. I usually try to restrict vocalizing for, when I run out of ways to explain things to others. I will fingure something else out.
Student #22
I do understand how important no-voice is to learning ASL. I had no clue it was rude, so thank you for sharing. There is so many different aspects to ASL, not including the actual signing. Thank you for sharing this with us. My voice is off!
Student #23
It is very rude to talk while an instructor is teaching. Even in other classes too. But some of those same people who know how rude it is are the same ones that do all the talking. Everyone should help each other because it seems that one person may know somethng that someone else doesn't.
Student #24
I have tried not to voice in the classroom it is hard. I find myself confused at times and frustrated. I understand it is disrespectful and will try my best to stay silent when learning. Sometimes I just need clarification!
Student #25
Sometimes it's hard to ask questions without using your voice, but I know there is a reasoning behind that. I think not using your voice can help you learn more in this class.
Student #26
I am sorry to have disrespected you, and the class as a whole. I understand that we shouldn't voice now, and why. I was only voicing for clarification.
Student #27
I like the no voicing. It helps us to learn the ASL language better. Voicing can get in the way of the ASL language. Sometimes it is confusing as to what is being said, but it is getting easier toe more classes we have.
Student #28
I understand and will try harder to not use my voice. I did not mean to be disrespectful.
Student #29
I can see how it would be frustrating. Sorry for the disrespect; none intended. I'll shut up! :)
Student #30
I will try harder to not use my voice, and only sign. The last thing I want to do is be disrespectful. It is so easy to revert back to talking, but I do enjoy the challenge of not being allowed to talk.
Student #31
I get why not to speak at a deeper level now. Thank you.
Student #32
I agree that is important to not talk. I do find it to be disrespectful to have a fill on conversation with someone and leave you out. I don't like tattletaling on people but sometimes I wish I would. And telling someone to be quet or "sh" doesn't always work because they don't want to listen to anyone with no authority.
Student #33
I love no voice. This world is too loud and I have sensitive hearing. I brought earplugs into class to mask even some sounds that Carl makes (hitting desk, 'STOP" sign, percussion, etc.) I get easily distracted. I love that I get 4 hours a week with no sound. Please no voice. We learn more when we immerse ourselves.
Thank you for being so patient and understanding. I think sometimes it is hard for people to remember not to talk in class, because outside of class, that's what we do when we want something said.
ReplyDeleteASL as the language and culture of the Deaf being learned, whether in a classroom or elsewhere, is an ideal toward which to strive. It does not occur as the result of a single year of college, or two. Rather, it is a process that depends on the continual acquisition of ASL. As instructors, we must begin with a set of values, or what might be called assumptions, about how to best to educate the students about ASL. I believe that teaching ASL as a competent system respects the unique, culturally defined language of the Deaf. No voicing is the most difficult challenge.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Carl because it is indeed disrespectful to the instructor as well as the teacher aide/tutor. I do encourage you all to attend to deaf events and you'll see most percent of deaf people don't use their voice. I do use my voice when I am signing to hearing people because that is how I was raise but I have caught myself turning voice off often.
ReplyDeleteI have noticed that after the class it doesn't feel good to talk again. I notice that I am trying to sign to my sister and mother when I get their food order....... I am so happy to be taking this class even though it means no talking.
ReplyDeleteMost people like to talk so I can see why it is difficult not to, but I cannot concentrate with the noise.. I need the quiet to sign. Now that people know it is disrespectful to do that I bet we are all quieter.
ReplyDeletei get distacted easy in class when their is talking. then i confused on the sign. so please no talking!
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